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February 05 2012
Solar Gadget Workshop
Sunday, February 26th, 2012
2pm-5pm
Taught by David Casey
Members: $60
Non-members: $75
Register here:
Members $60.00 USD
Non-Members $75.00 USD
The workshop will include an overview of how photovoltaic cells work, combining solar cells to power different electronics components, and then everyone will make a simple solar powered oscillator.
Refund policy:
Please note, all class fees include a non-refundable enrollment deposit of $25 that will be deducted from your refund if you sign up for, then drop, a class. So, for example, if you sign up for Machine Sewing 101 and pay the $155 class fee, but then remember that you have trapeze school final exams that conflict with the Sewing class and shouldn’t have signed up after all, we will refund you $130 of your tuition payment.
Gift certificate purchase:
If you have a Machine Project gift certificate you’d like to redeem for a class, please email us at machine@machineproject.com and let us know.
January 03 2012
Intro to Microcontrollers with Arduino
Taught by Elisabeth McMullin
Saturday 1/28
Sunday 1/29
Saturday 2/4
Sunday 2/5
1 – 4pm
Members: $225
Non-Members: $250
All materials included.
Register here: Members $225.00 USD Non-Members $250.00 USDBecome a Machine Project Member and receive a discounted rate on all classes!
We will explore the basic concepts of microcontrollers using Arduino, an easy-to- use, open-source microcontroller platform, perfect for anyone who wants to create interactive objects, installations, or instruments. It combines a simple i/o board with a development environment, based on Processing, and can take input from sensors, control electronic devices and communicate between various electronic hardware and your computer.
Requirements: A laptop running OS X, Windows, or Linux with a USB port
Prerequisites: A basic knowledge of programming and/or electronics is
helpful but not necessary.
Things to Bring: Wire Cutters/ Strippers
Class 1:
Setting up the Arduino hardware & software
The function and uses of a microcontroller
Overview of basic electronics
Reading Schematics
Overview of the Wiring/Processing language
Basic circuits using buttons, LEDs & piezo buzzers
Class 2:
Programming review
Basic sensor input (switches, knobs, & light sensors)
Controlling devices using sensor input
Introduction to transistors
Relays & controlling higher powered devices
Class 3:
Introduction to pulse width modulation (PWM)
Controlling DC & Servo motors with Arduino
Multiplexers and controlling many devices
Using Arduino with the Processing language (basic control of visuals &
sound on your laptop using sensor input)
Class 4:
Introduction to SPI Interfacing & I2C Interfacing with Arduino
Controlling digital potentiometers
Building an arduino audio sequencer
Other related technologies: bluetooth, OSC, other languages that can
be used with Arduino
Refund policy:
Please note, all class fees include a non-refundable enrollment deposit of $25 that will be deducted from your refund if you sign up for, then drop, a class. So, for example, if you sign up for Machine Sewing 101 and pay the $155 class fee, but then remember that you have trapeze school final exams that conflict with the Sewing class and shouldn’t have signed up after all, we will refund you $130 of your tuition payment.
Gift certificate purchase:
If you have a Machine Project gift certificate you’d like to redeem for a class, please email us at machine@machineproject.com and let us know.
July 20 2011
Intro to MIG Welding
Sunday, August 28th, 2011
10am-3pm
Location: at a new studio up the road from Machine Project, address provided upon registration.
This workshop is NOT taking place at Machine Project.
Taught by Matt Jones
Members – $135 (all materials and MIG welder rental included, with take-home final project)
Non-members – $160 (all materials and MIG welder rental included, with take-home final project)
Register here: Members $135.00 Non-Members $160.00Become a Machine Project Member and receive a discounted rate on all classes!
In this five-hour class, we will cover the basics of welding using MIG welders, to have you safely and effectively ready to start your very own furniture, bicycle chopper, or top fuel dragster project. We will be emphasizing skills and techniques that will make welding more accessible to those without extensive workshops, toolsets, or experience. During the class we will cover safety, metal procurement and selection, welding technique, metal bandsaws, and finishing/rust prevention techniques. We will then apply all the new skills to make a twelve-inch pillow that we will inflate and destroy.
Requirements: Comfortable using power tools and not squeamish with loud noises or sparks. Participants must wear long sleeve cotton shirts and cotton pants/jeans without holes. Pants must cover the tops of your shoes. Please also wear leather or canvas shoes (zero nylon/synthetic materials on the shoes—vans, work boots, cowboy boots—all good). Please also bring sunscreen and safety glasses if you have them. Participants must be 16 or older.
Workshop instructor Matt Jones is a sculptor and works as a scenic carpenter and welder building sets and props for theater, film, and art. More information (including advanced classes) is here: http://www.moltenmetalworks.net
Refund policy:
Please note, all class fees include a non-refundable enrollment deposit of $25 that will be deducted from your refund if you sign up for, then drop, a class. So, for example, if you sign up for Machine Sewing 101 and pay the $155 class fee, but then remember that you have trapeze school final exams that conflict with the Sewing class and shouldn’t have signed up after all, we will refund you $130 of your tuition payment.
Gift certificate purchase:
If you have a Machine Project gift certificate you’d like to redeem for a class, please email us at machine@machineproject.com and let us know.
Intro to MIG Welding
Sunday, August 14th, 2011
10am-3pm
Location: at a new studio up the road from Machine Project, address provided upon registration.
This workshop is NOT taking place at Machine Project.
Taught by Matt Jones
Members – $135 (all materials and MIG welder rental included, with take-home final project)
Non-members – $160 (all materials and MIG welder rental included, with take-home final project)
Register here: Members $135.00 Non-Members $160.00Become a Machine Project Member and receive a discounted rate on all classes!
In this five-hour class, we will cover the basics of welding using MIG welders, to have you safely and effectively ready to start your very own furniture, bicycle chopper, or top fuel dragster project. We will be emphasizing skills and techniques that will make welding more accessible to those without extensive workshops, toolsets, or experience. During the class we will cover safety, metal procurement and selection, welding technique, metal bandsaws, and finishing/rust prevention techniques. We will then apply all the new skills to make a twelve-inch pillow that we will inflate and destroy.
Requirements: Comfortable using power tools and not squeamish with loud noises or sparks. Participants must wear long sleeve cotton shirts and cotton pants/jeans without holes. Pants must cover the tops of your shoes. Please also wear leather or canvas shoes (zero nylon/synthetic materials on the shoes—vans, work boots, cowboy boots—all good). Please also bring sunscreen and safety glasses if you have them. Participants must be 16 or older.
Workshop instructor Matt Jones is a sculptor and works as a scenic carpenter and welder building sets and props for theater, film, and art. More information (including advanced classes) is here: http://www.moltenmetalworks.net
Refund policy:
Please note, all class fees include a non-refundable enrollment deposit of $25 that will be deducted from your refund if you sign up for, then drop, a class. So, for example, if you sign up for Machine Sewing 101 and pay the $155 class fee, but then remember that you have trapeze school final exams that conflict with the Sewing class and shouldn’t have signed up after all, we will refund you $130 of your tuition payment.
Gift certificate purchase:
If you have a Machine Project gift certificate you’d like to redeem for a class, please email us at machine@machineproject.com and let us know.
July 08 2011
Intro to Oxyacetylene Torch Welding Class
Sunday, August 7th, 2011
1-5pm
Location: at a new studio up the road from Machine Project, address provided upon registration.
This workshop is NOT taking place at Machine Project.
Taught by Matt Jones
Members – $105
Non-members – $120
Register here: Members $105.00 Non-Members $120.00Become a Machine Project Member and receive a discounted rate on all classes!
After two years of MIG welding exclusivity, I’m expanding to include oxyacetylene welding and starting by offering an introductory torch class. Oxyacetylene welding is ideal for versatility; the same torch can cut through ¼” steel plate, braze together a bicycle frame, hot bend a wrought iron gate, weld up a table, help you lose 50 pounds or more, and walk your dog. In this intro class, we’ll learn to harness this 6300* F beast and use it to cut, bend, and weld steel to make a decorative tea light holder of your design that you can take home and use to advertise your inner bad-ass. After completion of this class, you will be certified to use the torches during Open Shop hours.
You should be comfortable using power tools and not squeamish with loud noises, sparks, or fire. Participants must wear long sleeve cotton shirts and cotton pants/jeans without holes. Pants must cover the tops of your shoes. Please also wear leather or canvas shoes (zero nylon/synthetic materials on the shoes—vans, work boots, cowboy boots—all good). All materials and safety equipment will be provided.
Workshop instructor Matt Jones is a sculptor and works as a scenic carpenter and welder building sets and props for theater, film, and art. More information (including advanced classes) is here: http://www.moltenmetalworks.net
Refund policy:
Please note, all class fees include a non-refundable enrollment deposit of $25 that will be deducted from your refund if you sign up for, then drop, a class. So, for example, if you sign up for Machine Sewing 101 and pay the $155 class fee, but then remember that you have trapeze school final exams that conflict with the Sewing class and shouldn’t have signed up after all, we will refund you $130 of your tuition payment.
Gift certificate purchase:
If you have a Machine Project gift certificate you’d like to redeem for a class, please email us at machine@machineproject.com and let us know.
July 05 2011
DIY Art Space Workshop or Whatever
Saturday, August 6th, 2011
1pm
An invitation from Mark Allen, the guy who started Machine Project:
“Hey you! Have you ever thought about starting your own
art/music/literary/performance/whatever space? Why not? Los Angeles is
a rich environment for creating low cost, grassroots venues of all
kinds. Based on my experience with starting Machine Project and a couple of
previous (even more low end) artist run spaces, I will answer
questions, give advice, and provide an overview on the basics of
starting your own cultural venue in this free informal workshop.
If this is something you are interested in attending, please email me
at m@machineproject.com with the subject line [want to be starting
something] and include whatever questions you have, so I can prepare
to be as useful as possible. Space will be limited to those who
register ahead of time, unless no one signs up, in which case I’ll
talk to whoever walks through the door.
best,
Mark”
June 29 2011
Exploration of Millinery: Sculptural Straw Hats Class
Saturday, July 30 & Sunday, July 31, 2011
1 – 4pm
With Corina Haywood
Members: $75 for 2 day class
Non-members: $90 for 2 day class
Register here:
Members $75.00
Non-Members $90.00
Millinery is the art of making hats by hand using wooden head blocks and simple hand-sewing techniques. In this 2 day class you will make your own, one-of-a-kind hat using natural woven straw material and an assortment of trim materials. Design techniques are based on the free-form blocking and draping techniques that were used during the 1920’s to the 1940’s when women were making their own hats to cut costs and introduced innovative styles into the world of fashion. You can make an original version of a classic design, or combine different hat shapes to invent your own free-form sculpted design. If you have a specific idea of a hat you would like to make or lines that you would like to evoke, such as architectural designs, photos of flowers or landscapes, please feel free to bring images or hats from your own collection to this class. You may also bring any feathers, jewelry, buttons or fabric that you would like to use.
June 16 2011
Intro to MIG Welding
Sunday, July 24th, 2011
10am-3pm
Location: at a new studio up the road from Machine Project, address provided upon registration.
This workshop is NOT taking place at Machine Project.
Taught by Matt Jones
Members – $135 (all materials and MIG welder rental included, with take-home final project)
Non-members – $150 (all materials and MIG welder rental included, with take-home final project)
Register here: Members $135.00 Non-Members $150.00Become a Machine Project Member and receive a discounted rate on all classes!
In this five-hour class, we will cover the basics of welding using MIG welders, to have you safely and effectively ready to start your very own furniture, bicycle chopper, or top fuel dragster project. We will be emphasizing skills and techniques that will make welding more accessible to those without extensive workshops, toolsets, or experience. During the class we will cover safety, metal procurement and selection, welding technique, metal bandsaws, and finishing/rust prevention techniques. We will then apply all the new skills to make a twelve-inch pillow that we will inflate and destroy.
Requirements: Comfortable using power tools and not squeamish with loud noises or sparks. Participants must wear long sleeve cotton shirts and cotton pants/jeans without holes. Pants must cover the tops of your shoes. Please also wear leather or canvas shoes (zero nylon/synthetic materials on the shoes—vans, work boots, cowboy boots—all good). Please also bring sunscreen and safety glasses if you have them. Participants must be 16 or older.
Workshop instructor Matt Jones is a sculptor and works as a scenic carpenter and welder building sets and props for theater, film, and art. More information (including advanced classes) is here: http://www.moltenmetalworks.net
Refund policy:
Please note, all class fees include a non-refundable enrollment deposit of $25 that will be deducted from your refund if you sign up for, then drop, a class. So, for example, if you sign up for Machine Sewing 101 and pay the $155 class fee, but then remember that you have trapeze school final exams that conflict with the Sewing class and shouldn’t have signed up after all, we will refund you $130 of your tuition payment.
Gift certificate purchase:
If you have a Machine Project gift certificate you’d like to redeem for a class, please email us at machine@machineproject.com and let us know.
Intro To MIG Welding
Sunday, July 10th, 2011
10am-3pm
Location: at a new studio up the road from Machine Project, address provided upon registration.
This workshop is NOT taking place at Machine Project.
Taught by Matt Jones
Members – $135 (all materials and MIG welder rental included, with take-home final project)
Non-members – $150 (all materials and MIG welder rental included, with take-home final project)
Register here: Members $135.00 Non-Members $150.00Become a Machine Project Member and receive a discounted rate on all classes!
In this five-hour class, we will cover the basics of welding using MIG welders, to have you safely and effectively ready to start your very own furniture, bicycle chopper, or top fuel dragster project. We will be emphasizing skills and techniques that will make welding more accessible to those without extensive workshops, toolsets, or experience. During the class we will cover safety, metal procurement and selection, welding technique, metal bandsaws, and finishing/rust prevention techniques. We will then apply all the new skills to make a twelve-inch pillow that we will inflate and destroy.
Requirements: Comfortable using power tools and not squeamish with loud noises or sparks. Participants must wear long sleeve cotton shirts and cotton pants/jeans without holes. Pants must cover the tops of your shoes. Please also wear leather or canvas shoes (zero nylon/synthetic materials on the shoes—vans, work boots, cowboy boots—all good). Please also bring sunscreen and safety glasses if you have them. Participants must be 16 or older.
Workshop instructor Matt Jones is a sculptor and works as a scenic carpenter and welder building sets and props for theater, film, and art. More information (including advanced classes) is here: http://www.moltenmetalworks.net
Refund policy:
Please note, all class fees include a non-refundable enrollment deposit of $25 that will be deducted from your refund if you sign up for, then drop, a class. So, for example, if you sign up for Machine Sewing 101 and pay the $155 class fee, but then remember that you have trapeze school final exams that conflict with the Sewing class and shouldn’t have signed up after all, we will refund you $130 of your tuition payment.
Gift certificate purchase:
If you have a Machine Project gift certificate you’d like to redeem for a class, please email us at machine@machineproject.com and let us know.
May 12 2011
Intro to MIG Welding
Sunday, June 26th, 2011
10am-3pm
Location: at a new studio up the road from Machine Project, address provided upon registration.
This workshop is NOT taking place at Machine Project.
Taught by Matt Jones
Members – $135 (all materials and MIG welder rental included, with take-home final project)
Non-members – $150 (all materials and MIG welder rental included, with take-home final project)
Sorry, sold out! Email machine@machineproject.com to get on the waiting list.
Become a Machine Project Member and receive a discounted rate on all classes!
In this five-hour class, we will cover the basics of welding using MIG welders, to have you safely and effectively ready to start your very own furniture, bicycle chopper, or top fuel dragster project. We will be emphasizing skills and techniques that will make welding more accessible to those without extensive workshops, toolsets, or experience. During the class we will cover safety, metal procurement and selection, welding technique, and finishing/rust prevention techniques. We will then apply all the new skills to make a four-inch cube that we can inflate with a bicycle pump.
Requirements: Comfortable using power tools and not squeamish with loud noises or sparks. Participants must wear long sleeve cotton shirts and cotton pants/jeans without holes. Pants must cover the tops of your shoes. Please also wear leather or canvas shoes (zero nylon/synthetic materials on the shoes—vans, work boots, cowboy boots—all good). Please also bring sunscreen, safety glasses, and leather work gloves if you have them.
Workshop instructor Matt Jones is a sculptor and works as a scenic carpenter and welder building sets and props for museums and amusement parks. Visit his website: www.ojdingo.com
Refund policy:
Please note, all class fees include a non-refundable enrollment deposit of $25 that will be deducted from your refund if you sign up for, then drop, a class. So, for example, if you sign up for Machine Sewing 101 and pay the $155 class fee, but then remember that you have trapeze school final exams that conflict with the Sewing class and shouldn’t have signed up after all, we will refund you $130 of your tuition payment.
Gift certificate purchase:
If you have a Machine Project gift certificate you’d like to redeem for a class, please email us at machine@machineproject.com and let us know.
March 16 2011
Sound Synthesis Class
Taught by Christopher Mckinlay
Tuesday 6/14, 7-10pm
Saturday 6/18, 2-5pm
Tuesday 6/21, 7-10pm
Saturday 6/25, 2-5pm
Become a Machine Project Member and get a discount on all classes for a year!
Non-members – $250
Members – $225
The electronic synthesis of audio signals is a wonderful combination of mathematics (harmonic analysis) and electrical engineering (analog and digital signal processing). This class will present the theoretical fundamentals of sound synthesis with a view towards musical applications. We will use the open source software platform Pure Data as a toolkit for the class and a game called Ovid’s Patch to place the concepts into a musical context and form new collaborations.
class 1: software and synthesis
An introduction to digital audio signal processing and the Pure Data programming environment. Audio and control rates. Analog transitions and AD/DA converters. Ovid’s Patch.
class 2: waveforms and spectra
Mathematical fundamentals of acoustic waves and how we perceive them. A rough guide to the Fourier transform. Spectrum analyzers. The classical waveforms and their spectra. Additive synthesis.
class 3: envelopes and modulation
Transients and their formulation in terms of ADSR envelopes. LFO’s and their role in generating diversity. A taxonomy of linear audio effects such as flanging, ring modulation, delay, and chorus.
class 4: samplers and filters
Subtractive synthesis and its fundamental role in audio production. Cutoff, resonance (‘Q’) and using filters as oscillators. Sampling, wavetables, and interpolation.
additional topics: non-linear synthesis and effects
Introduction to frequency modulation synthesis, compression, and saturation. Bit reduction and noise. Analog and digital distortion.
Requirements:
A laptop with a working installation of Pure Data, headphones, and a love of sound. No prior mathematical or programming experience is required. You can download Pure Data for free, here: http://puredata.info/downloads
About the Instructor:
Christopher Mckinlay is a 4th year PhD student in Mathematics at UCLA studying digital audio signal processing.
fourier transform modulus of a cosine
Refund policy:
Please note, all class fees include a non-refundable enrollment deposit of $25 that will be deducted from your refund if you sign up for, then drop, a class. So, for example, if you sign up for Machine Sewing 101 and pay the $155 class fee, but then remember that you have trapeze school final exams that conflict with the Sewing class and shouldn’t have signed up after all, we will refund you $130 of your tuition payment.
Gift certificate purchase:
If you have a Machine Project gift certificate you’d like to redeem for a class, please email us at machine@machineproject.com and let us know.
March 02 2011
POST-BOOK: Bound sequences unbound
Instructor: Djego Padilla
3 class meetings:
Saturday 4/16
Sunday 4/17
Saturday 4/23
9:30am – 1:30pm each day.
Become a Machine Project Member and receive a discount on classes! Join here.
Members $185
Non-Members $215
Description:
As printing takes a more important role as art-piece the relationship between type and image questions linear logic, and starts to assume a similarity to avant-guard music, and cinema where textures and trompe l’oeil with poetic text create a tactile experience of an artists vision, no longer just a documentation of their work but an addition to it, a new way to experience it. Or even as a process to elicit new work though the design of a publication.
We will explore the relationship between content and layout through experiments with type and image, the grid vs. the limitations of the page, navigation, and structure.
This twelve-hour, three session, week-end workshop. Participants who have laptops and any image-making software are encouraged to bring them with you, but if you do not we will also be working with X-acto knife and glue stick. We will use online printing services to generate a publication of the results.
BIO:
Djego Padilla
Graphic Designer, Artist & Educator.
B. Mexico City, 1975
Chief-Creative Director of the Atelier Allograph, a trans-disciplinary studio based in Monterrey Mexico with world-wide projects in Los Angeles, Mexico City, and The Netherlands; specializing in typography, information design, and publication design.
www.atelier-allograph.com
Information Design: Visualizing Data
Instructor: Djego Padilla
3 class meetings:
Saturday 4/16
Sunday 4/17
Saturday 4/23
2:30pm – 6:30pm each day.
Become a Machine Project Member and receive a discount on classes! Join here.
Members $185
Non-Members $215
Description:
This twelve-hour, three session, week-end workshop explores the current dialogue in information design by presenting visualizations of data in visual culture at large. We will be working with both existing data, and self-generated, or subjective data, to generate engaging information design that tells a story in a unique way.
Exploring the physical qualities of the page, space, or publication, we will create a rationalized compositional strategy using letters, numbers, and grids as well as intuitive methods such as randomness, semiotic compositions and handmade images; resulting in a visualizations of our data to reveal and explore it’s distinguishing characteristics.
Participants who have laptops and any image-making software are encouraged to bring them with you, but if you do not pencil and paper will do!
We will explore online printing to generate a publication of the results.
BIO :
Djego Padilla
Graphic Designer, Artist & Educator.
B. Mexico City, 1975
Chief-Creative Director of the Atelier Allograph, a trans-disciplinary studio based in Monterrey Mexico with world-wide projects in Los Angeles, Mexico City, and The Netherlands; specializing in typography, information design, and publication design.
www.atelier-allograph.com
Refund policy:
Please note, all class fees include a non-refundable enrollment deposit of $25 that will be deducted from your refund if you sign up for, then drop, a class. So, for example, if you sign up for Machine Sewing 101 and pay the $155 class fee, but then remember that you have trapeze school final exams that conflict with the Sewing class and shouldn’t have signed up after all, we will refund you $130 of your tuition payment.
Gift certificate purchase:
If you have a Machine Project gift certificate you’d like to redeem for a class, please email us at machine@machineproject.com and let us know.
February 11 2011
Intermediate Sewing 102: Pattern-making and Alterations
3 Saturdays, April 9th, 16th, and 23rd, 2011
noon to 4pm
Instructed by Annie O’Malley + Lake Sharp
Non-Members – $155
Members – $130
Become a Machine Project Member and receive a discounted rate on all classes!
We as people with bodies don’t always fit into the homogenized arbitrary sizes of mass produced clothing. This class understands that and will teach you how to make your own patterns that fit your body. We will actualize a pattern that you’ve only known conceptually, as well as cover the tricks of the trade to altering a pre-existing garment in order to fit your 3 dimensional body. Must have basic knowledge of sewing and bring your own machine, other notions are included.
Refund policy:
Please note, all class fees include a non-refundable enrollment deposit of $25 that will be deducted from your refund if you sign up for, then drop, a class. So, for example, if you sign up for Machine Sewing 101 and pay the $155 class fee, but then remember that you have trapeze school final exams that conflict with the Sewing class and shouldn’t have signed up after all, we will refund you $130 of your tuition payment.
Gift certificate purchase:
If you have a Machine Project gift certificate you’d like to redeem for a class, please email us at machine@machineproject.com and let us know.
September 18 2010
David Tudor’s Rainforest IV: A sound installation workshop with Casey Anderson
Two-day workshop
Saturday, December 4th, 2010 +
Sunday, December 5th, 2010
1-4pm
Taught by Casey Anderson
Max. class size: 16 students
REGISTRATION AVAILABLE SOON!
Machine invites you to a two part, hands-on workshop investigating David Tudor’s seminal installation/performance piece, Rainforest IV, lead by Casey Anderson.
During Day 1, participants will learn how to build contact microphones, a miniature amplifier, and an audio output transformer (together forming an audio driver) from scratch. Participants will receive hands-on instruction/assistance with building their own driver for the installation, to be accompanied by discussion of the functionality of these devices and their typical use in sound art/contemporary music. Day 1 will culminate with a discussion of Tudor’s work and a brief introduction to the Rainforest series. Participants will be asked to return for Day 2 with a selection of objects and a possible selection of sound sources.
Day 2 will begin with an in-depth discussion, and demonstration, of how Rainforest IV tends to be realized. Participants will observe documentation of other exhibitions of Rainforest IV from a variety of sources and will learn what makes a particular exhibition most successful. Afterwards, the workshop will shift gears to an environment for experimentation with participant’s newly-constructed drivers. As they experiment with resonating various objects, each participant will receive input from the instructor regarding effective strategies for creating/presenting a strong Rainforest object. As Day 2 progresses, participants will collaboratively transform the Machine work space into a group exhibition of Rainforest IV, culminating in a free open house to showcase the installation.
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